Comments on: Brookfield Central LW Joins Circle of Champions: WDCA State TOC History

By: daniel schwei

daniel schwei — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:03:12 +0000

I noticed that the 2000-2001 runner-up team is listed as Brookfield Central Nick Moore and Ted Watter. That team was actually Nick Moore and Daniel Schwei. If you look at the break round pairings for that year, you’ll see it accurately reflected as Moore-Schwei. And, as one of the members of the team, I certainly remember being there :)

Thanks

By: Jason Renzelmann

Jason Renzelmann — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:37:10 +0000

G-MAN, I would love to read that email. Can you, or anyone else who got it, please forward me a copy at jrenzelmann@yahoo.com?

By: Nick Bubb

Nick Bubb — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:41:13 +0000

Voss if you don’t forward me and Bill that information, we will kill you.

By: Gerard Grigsby

Gerard Grigsby — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:39:49 +0000

Hey Jon-just sent you a pretty extensive email regarding the very early days including how Jason and Paul and I came to meet-up. It should take you right up to the brink of our first tournament together at East Grand Rapida-in Michigan. Thanka.

By: Jon Voss

Jon Voss — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:34:25 +0000

Gerard,

I’m the current director of debate at Sheboygan North; our historical records could use some touching up, specifically during Jason and Paul’s run. Would you please back-channel me at vossj5919@uwc.edu?

Best,
Jonathan Voss

By: Gerard Grigsby

Gerard Grigsby — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:00:07 +0000

The 92-93 Season info is incorrect. I was the debate coach at Sheboygan North from 1990-1993. My A team from the year before Paul Maxon & Jason Renzelmann-who I referred to as the L.O.D. or Legion of Doom went undefeated at both State & NFLs and did not drop a ballot at either tournament. We were down quite a bit the next year after they graduated, but my A team of Heather Shannon (a sophomore) and Kurt Keough(a junior) made it to the TOC in Kentucky that year and managed to beat one of the fellows-Mary Beth Maloney from The Head Royce School.I split up our top two teams to let them debate with their 1st partner choice at State, and my team of Matt Zemanek and Kurt Keough debated Appleton in the finals, NOT Brookfield Central. Although Josh and David were vastly superior to that particular team,they were nonetheless knocked out in the Quarterfinals-thus they made the finals at TOC, but only the 1/4s at WDCA State.And they got beaten fair and square at State-I was there. The next year, the 93-94 season I coached John Brogan & Srinu Reddy at Appleton East along with Gary Arndt-who put his ego aside in a way I have never seen another head coach do before or since to allow me to “work my magic” with the Appleton team. I was also the victim of some extremely vicious,and cruel lies which seemed to establish this pattern of deception by some in the state who were extremely unhappy with the fact that a black debate coach like myself enjoyed such tremendous success.I only ended up staying at Appleton East for the first semester before I was betrayed by the new director of Forensics-despite protests from the other coaches,debaters,parents etc. I was let go midway through the first semester. I ended up moving back to California where I went on to coach at Head Royce and The Harker School and continued to enjoy tremendous success.My # is 415-286-2749.

By: Peter Klein

Peter Klein — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:45:53 +0000

Hmmmm stumbled in….

re: the question about alyssa glass. If i’m not mistaken she was WHSFA top speaker, not WDCA top speaker. I could be wrong though, its happened before.

Re: josh’s no comment about who the runner up was in 1996-1997…

man, its been ten years since that round. are we that old? you definately are, mr. almost thirty.I slept through most of it but samson said you guys were alright.

By: David Henning

David Henning — Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:10:27 +0000

Nick, Cory and all: I have a little information that might help, assuming that this information is still correct.  Jeff Holt has been working for an insurance company in Sheboygan.  His phone number is 920-458-0924.  Gerard Grigsby is indeed in San Francisco.  I've got his phone number (yes, a phone number) for Gerard somewhere.  His email address is:  gerardgrigsby@hotmail.com

By: Nick Bubb

Nick Bubb — Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:18:11 +0000

One of these days when I'm back in town, I need to have a sit down with Mr. Holt.

If others are interested in such a conversation, I'll see if he'd be interested in helping out with the North Tournament. Then I might get some cool answers.

By: Cory Puuri

Cory Puuri — Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:35:10 +0000

Find Article has an article from the MJS listing Alyssa Glass as top speaker in 94-95 http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4207/is_19950217/ai_n10185598  I am about 70% sure Renzelmann was the top speaker in 91-92. I was there. Clif Morton probably knows and if anyone could track down Jeff Holt (Sheb Christian?), he probably knows. Gerarrd Grigsby was Maxon/Renzelmann's coach so he probably knows. I think he has been coaching for a school in San Francisco the last few years. 