From what I’ve gleamed from some quick research, octa derives from Greek where octo derives from Greek and Latin. Since we use Semi-final and not Hemi-final, I’d go with the more Latin form and keep Octo.

Of course we could always call it the Sweet 16.

Are you talking about qualifying for the WSDT or what happens AT the WSDT? It seems there would be a difference in qualifier at the octo(a) level and the elim rounds at state.

I applaud you for delving into the standing rules. I’ve tried to read them and it isn’t easy.

Fall of 2004:
“Mike Traas moved that WDCA consider switching the number of VSS STOC teams from 32 to 35 as cut-off for going to octa-finals. Discussion of our two meetings rule for passing proposals led to a motion to suspend the rules. The suspension of the rules passed unanimously by a voice vote.”

interestingly, this hasn’t been updated in the standing rules.

The current version of the standing rules read:
“32 entries and over – elimination rounds begin at octa-finals”

(Which also isn’t true, because we changed that at the spring meeting of 2007. We changed it to read, “All teams with a winning record are eligible to compete in elimination rounds. If the bracket is incomplete as a result, higher seed teams are advanced without debating in order to preserve the integrity of the competition.” In other words, you need to have a 4-2 record to participate in elimination rounds and that partial elimination rounds can be used.)

These provisions technically related to the WSDT, but they can be assumed to reasonably apply to individual tournaments. The reason for the absence of an octa(o)final is that we have not had many tournaments (aside from that one year in Wausau) that had more than 30 teams in the Varsity switch division.

Let me do some reviewing of the standing rules (old bylaws).

In looking at the proposal we passed last weekend for JV and Novice divisions at switch side tournaments, it’s at the quarterfinal level when there are 17 or more teams.

I’m not sure what to think when almost half of the field earns a spot at the WSDT when there are 17 teams, but only 11% will earn the bid with the field this big.

My other question is what happens if/when a team from another state earns the bid to our state tournament. Could they join the WDCA and come to the WDST? Talk abou ironic, a team from somewhere else winning our state championship….

Anyone?

Thanks,
~Bill

Also, a proposal was raised at the spring WDCA meeting to allow 2-person teams in novice and JV pick up bids as a pair, provided they have a second team pick up a bid as well. (Essentially, it would work the same as teams qualifying in 2 person and 4 person at the varsity level, but state would only offer the traditional 4 person divisions.) That proposal is part of the old business to be addressed at the Fall meeting tomorrow.

Thanks for a response in advance.

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